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Walter Soyka

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I specialize in design and technology for motion graphics, widescreen/multi-screen display, and high-impact presentations.

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It is possible to link audio from Main Comp to Precomps maintain sync?
by Valo Balmaseda 19 hours ago
Hello all, maybe a weird question, but I want to know if it possible to hear a playback audio from "Main Comp" synchronized, while I work and I do a preview on a PreComp inside that Main Comp I mean,
Re: It is possible to link audio from Main Comp to Precomps maintain sync?
by Walter Soyka 7 hours ago
Tudor "Ted" Jelescu "As far as I know the only way to achieve this is to copy and paste the audio layer in your precomp" I also make these guide layers link , so they don't amplify the real
Apple dropping QuickTime and backup issues
by Brian Betz 2 days ago
I am seeking some advice on backing up some of my files and I have always received excellent advice from this forum and, thus, I thought I would throw this out to the group and see what folks have to
Re: Apple dropping QuickTime and backup issues
by Walter Soyka 7 hours ago
Brian Betz " hope prores says around for a bit or my equipment keeps working as I am still shooting with my Ninja 2 as a recorder." An update from last week: "Today we re pleased to announce that Ado
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Why do I get a quality loss after importing my video into after effects CC
by Stephan Egli 4 days ago
I noticed after exporting footage for the first time with after effects that the quality of the footage is a little less vibrant (washed out whitish) compared to the original footage. I thought first
Re: Why do I get a quality loss after importing my video into after effects CC
by Walter Soyka 2 days ago
How are you comparing the videos What codecs are you using Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live link Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting @keenlive twi
Working in 32bpc and exporting to 8Bit for Youtube
by Marten Zander 5 days ago
Hey guys, I have the following problem. I am working on a little logo animation and for the sake of good quality and more freedom in compositing I am working in 32bpc color space. I want to publish th
Re: Working in 32bpc and exporting to 8Bit for Youtube
by Walter Soyka 4 days ago
YouTube is re-encoding and compounding the compression artifacts. Does it still suffer like this if you use one of AME's YouTube presets Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live link Motion
What Ever Happened to Metadata?
by Simon Ubsdell 2 weeks ago
Starring Bins, Folders, Libraries, Events, Keyword Collections and more. I asked Bette Davis and Joan Crawford if they would appear but they said the story was too tragic for them, besides which they'
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Re: What Ever Happened to Metadata?
by Walter Soyka 4 days ago
Coming back to the original question. Simon Ubsdell "So my question is: will we always still be using containers of one kind or another, alongside these metadata filtering options, or can you see a ti
OT Sony sells Vegas?
by Steve Connor 6 days ago
https: news.creativecow.net story 881874
Re: OT Sony sells Vegas?
by Walter Soyka 4 days ago
Noah Kadner "Anyone ever see Vegas in use outside of a home project studio " There very same question could have been asked of FCP X until some brave and smart people including yourself bucked popula
quicktime problems for adobe cc
by Ricardo Marty 1 month ago
All cc systens are compromised. Apple will not fix it and adobe hasnt offered a clue. Of course not being on the internet could mitigate posible damage but the creative cloud is internet http: fortune
Re: quicktime problems for adobe cc
by Walter Soyka 4 days ago
Update: "Today we re pleased to announce that Adobe has been able to accelerate work that was already in progress to support native reading of ProRes. This new capability is fully licensed and certifi
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CC Trial just shrunk from 30 to 7 days
by Andy Field 3 weeks ago
What's up with that http: www.provideocoalition.com creative-cloud-trial-reduction
Re: CC Trial just shrunk from 30 to 7 days
by Walter Soyka 4 days ago
Tim Wilson "So I'm curious, in your entire life, what's a trial you've taken where you struggled and struggled and struggled, and couldn't make up your mind until day 27 Have you even ever required a
Analysing a static camera
by Moog Gravett 6 days ago
Hi folks, I can't believe I've not come across this before, and I can't find any tuts, but can anyone give me some advice on how to solve a camera for a static image. I have need to add some items in
Re: Analysing a static camera
by Walter Soyka 4 days ago
If you're doing it in 2D, here are some instructions for setting up an isometric grid position animation that I wrote up a while back link : Position a 2D layer which you'd like to move over the isome
After Effects: View Options - Layer Controls - Turning off mysteriously
by Don Lavender 5 days ago
Hello. AE layer controls constantly is toggling off automatically at random times. I can find this happening up to 3-4 times a day. Does anyone know why this would happen I've been experiencing this f
Re: After Effects: View Options - Layer Controls - Turning off mysteriously
by Walter Soyka 4 days ago
I haven't been bitten by that, but if you can reproduce the issue, you should consider filing a bug report: http: www.adobe.com products wishform.html Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Liv
Rendering a comp to multiple different MOVs with different formats?
by guy smith 5 days ago
hey guys, I just stumbled on 'Add Output Module', which can render my comp to more than one MOV file, which is great. I just want to check, is this safe or does it put a strain on the system thanks!
Re: Rendering a comp to multiple different MOVs with different formats?
by Walter Soyka 4 days ago
I use multiple output modules (OMs) all the time without incident. Ae renders each frame according to the render queue item's render settings, then passes that intermediate image onto each of the outp
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X to the rescue again...
by Bill Davis 1 week ago
Interesting new story on FCP.co about more top tier Hollywood FCP X stuff - this time in the 360VR space. Quote that caught my eye... "When we were working on the Fast & Furious ride for Universal Stu
Re: X to the rescue again...
by Walter Soyka 5 days ago
Joe Marler "A specific commitment was made to deliver -- not just demonstrate -- the Metal API performance improvements in AE, Premiere, Illustrator and Photoshop. That has yet to arrive, after appro
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FCPX Viewer image non-standard
by Oliver Peters 6 days ago
I've been doing some comparisons lately between NLEs and with different displays, both Apple and non-Apple. What I'm seeing as a general rule, is that given the same source clip, the image in the FCPX
Re: FCPX Viewer image non-standard
by Walter Soyka 6 days ago
John Davidson "Probably the most accurate representation of how FCPX is designed to show video would be through the latest iMac screen. I don't have the most recent 5k iMac, but I believe it's a wide
Quicktime to be discontinued?
by Duke Sweden 3 weeks ago
I saw something this morning about Quicktime being discontinued by Apple. What will this mean for people in the future installing Premiere Pro on new computers Isn't Quicktime a required plugin for Pr
Re: Quicktime to be discontinued?
by Walter Soyka 3 weeks ago
Duke Sweden "Isn't Quicktime a required plugin for Premiere Pro Will Adobe add it as an included plugin " "QuickTime" usually refers to one of three things in conversation: 1) a multimedia framework
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What is mocha camera solve
by hanna dean 1 month ago
please explain to me what is mocha pro camera solver do never used it and now i tested it. this is what i have done. i tracked the side of an airline and it went well , i then copied the 4 corner pin
Re: What is mocha camera solve
by Ross Shain 4 weeks ago
Actually mocha's camera solve "can" give you animated 3D data (nulls) for a moving object, but it is probably not what you want. ;) Here is an example of using the mocha camera solve to "solve" the ca
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Walter Soyka liked this 4 weeks ago
PowerPoint Question: How to De-animate
by Ned Miller 1 month ago
My client needs me to drop many PP slides into their video and they are mainly bullet point builds. However, when they sent me their PP file the builds are already there and I can't break them out to
Re: PowerPoint Question: How to De-animate
by Walter Soyka 1 month ago
Ned Miller "Will a screen shot give me good resolution or should I export each one as a TIFF or JPEG There's probably going to be 90-110." A screen shot will be whatever the resolution of your displa
Remember the Asymmetrical Dissolve Debate?
by Charlie Austin 2 months ago
Simon and Co. have just solved that. :-) Really cool plugin! https: www.youtube.com watch v=ej6LT1pMlcc ------------------------------------------------------------- My FCPX Babbling blog "It is a poo
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Re: Remember the Asymmetrical Dissolve Debate?
by Tim Wilson 2 months ago
Well, I think we've finally managed to settle one debate around here. It can be done, and there are artistic, creative reasons for doing so. Having developed, or been part of development teams for, a
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last rant
by Aindreas Gallagher 2 months ago
on the cc numbers - one last rant on this forum too. I made a post ages ago around how 2-3 days of paid work pay for a year of the CC tool suite. Shantanyu Narayen, that terrible devil with a trendy b
Re: last rant
by Walter Soyka 2 months ago
Tim Wilson "Wait, what What does this MEAN LOL" We didn't shoot anything or use any video. The experience was modeled and animated in a 3D app, then textured, lit and rendered in a game engine in ste
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Can we perhaps hold the triumphalism ...?
by Simon Ubsdell 2 months ago
... until such times as FCP X reaches feature parity wth AVID, or at the very least with FCP 7 which it supplanted. My list is quite long and I won't rehearse it all yet again, but here's a key featur
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Re: Can we perhaps hold the triumphalism ...?
by Simon Ubsdell 2 months ago
Neil Goodman "modern workflows are different for each and every person and shop" I think this is a very important point. There's a sense in some quarters that workflows are congregating around a sing
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Walter Soyka liked this 2 months ago
Dissolves popping from about 25% to zero
by Paul Mitton 3 months ago
I'm noticing on my CC 9.2 dissolves are popping from about 25% opacity down to zero looking very much like a cut. Could this be a cc thing Paul Mitton Producer, Emmy Award Winning Director. SkyIslandM
Re: Dissolves popping from about 25% to zero
by Walter Soyka 2 months ago
I did a little writeup on this a couple years back, offering some explanation of what's going on and providing opacity keyframe presets that make applying gamma-ish dissolves via keyframes in linear l
Transcoding from XAVCI raw footages to Prores HQ, how do you estimate the total transcoded data size?
by Eui Yong Zong 2 months ago
I'm trying to determine the storage space for offline workflow. When transcoding from XAVCI 1080p raw footages to Prores HQ, is there a way to measure estimate what the size will be Thank you!
Re: Transcoding from XAVCI raw footages to Prores HQ, how do you estimate the total transcoded data size?
by Walter Soyka 2 months ago
Try this data rate calculator: https: www.digitalrebellion.com webapps videocalc Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live link Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Co
Competition
by Rainer Schubert 3 months ago
Affinity just announced, that it s software products will soon run on Windows also. Affinity Designer is already running as Alpha-Version. They wrote, the Applications (Affinity photo , designer) will
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Jim Wiseman liked this 2 months ago
Re: Competition
by Walter Soyka 2 months ago
Chris Pettit "Photoshop is really old software that Adobe seems to have had trouble bringing up to date on a series of different levels. Watch the tutorials for Affinity photo. It's elegant, fast, we
Independent Contractor agreement says Contractor gets paid "after Company receives payment from Company’s clients" - Is this legit?
by Mike Bissonette 3 months ago
I'm reasonably new to this forum. I am an freelance editor, and just received an Independent Contractor agreement to sign. I haven't dealt with a lot of these, and there's one item about compensation
Re: Independent Contractor agreement says Contractor gets paid "after Company receives payment from Company’s clients" - Is this legit?
by Tim Wilson 3 months ago
Mark Suszko "maybe NSFW" No Shortage of F Words.
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Any reason not to do all color-grading inside Premiere?
by Nick Ryan 3 months ago
Hey all! I supervise a team of editors and need help with a disagreement that's arisen lately. Here's my situation: I supervise 5 editors at an in-house production facility (the Advertising department
Re: Any reason not to do all color-grading inside Premiere?
by Walter Soyka 3 months ago
Looking at the features added to Premiere in the last few years versus the features added to SpeedGrade, it seems obvious to me that Adobe bought IRIDAS more for the technology than for the applicatio
Need some hardware suggestions please.
by Mike Perrella 3 months ago
Hopefully this is a good spot to ask this. I built a system with the help of someone else that is into games and I am now not sure if I should have done it his way as I am having slow rendering export
Re: Need some hardware suggestions please.
by Walter Soyka 3 months ago
Mike Perrella "I am having slow rendering exporting issues and its getting very frustrating and I have not even messed with 4k which I plan on in the very near future... I do use adjustment layers in
File: Ae_Beam_Demo
by Walter Soyka 3 months ago
aep file Sample AEP project showing how to rig the beam effect to two other objects, independent of parenting. https: f1.creativecow.net 9852 aebeamdemo
Is anyone using Motion?
by Oliver Peters 3 months ago
I'm curious. I see a lot of wonderful work being done in Motion from time to time, as well as to create FCPX templates. But is anyone seriously using it for motion graphics In the entire existence of
Re: Is anyone using Motion?
by Shawn Miller 3 months ago
Simon Ubsdell " I think everything you say there is exactly right - "motion graphics" is a much wider and more sophisticated category than it's ever been and only becoming more so all the time. Howev
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A Comprehensive List of NLE Systems
by Scott Thomas 3 months ago
My brother and I were talking over the holiday season about NLE systems, and we were discussing the many that have come and gone. Has anyone kept a list I started at the tail end of the linear editing
Re: A Comprehensive List of NLE Systems
by Mark Raudonis 3 months ago
My First NLE was made by Eastman Kodak company. It was called FILM.
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Will Premiere Pro CC Actually Use Two Graphics Cards?
by Kirk Darling 3 months ago
I'm using a Windows 10 system with an i7-4790, 16 gb ram, and an nvidia 960 card with 2k memory. The Nvidia 960 cards are in a pretty good price point, and I can more easily afford a second 960 than a
Re: Will Premiere Pro CC Actually Use Two Graphics Cards?
by Walter Soyka 3 months ago
Premiere Pro can use multiple GPUs for rendering and export, but only a single GPU for playback. http: www.provideocoalition.com adobe-premiere-pro-and-multiple-gpus Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scient
Confused about premiere pro to after effects round trip workflow
by Robert Budnikas 4 months ago
Hello everyone, I know this may have been answered at one time or another. There are certainly a lot of results when googling it. This also may be a very dumbed obvious question but new to premiere pr
Re: Confused about premiere pro to after effects round trip workflow
by Walter Soyka 4 months ago
Robert Budnikas "I did realize that I should Render and Replace the footage after being in AE, but having problems there too. I would assume that is the plug in creating the slowdown." Noise reductio
Interpret as separate fields for deinterlace plugin?
by Sean David 4 months ago
My PAL footage is LFF, and is going onto a frames (no fields) timeline. Just to make sure I understand this correctly for quality sake, and for optimal use of a deinterlace plugin. Under 'interpret fo
Re: Interpret as separate fields for deinterlace plugin?
by Chris Wright 4 months ago
if you interpret AE with fields, you are agreeing to its own method of deinterlacing(preserve is highest). all the other plugins I have ever tried require you to have fields set to off so they can use
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I have some fairly serious Mac/Windows concerns to address before I throw all of my money at a computor
by Josh Williams 4 months ago
Ok, this one is full of opinions I know and (from my end at least it gets a little complicated). I now have the money to invest in a decent computor (finally) so I want something with decent specs for
Re: I have some fairly serious Mac/Windows concerns to address before I throw all of my money at a computor
by Walter Soyka 4 months ago
Eric Santiago "I spend way too much time fixing issues with the PCs at work and home compared to my Macs." My experience has been the opposite. Our PCs just keep on trucking, but our Macs need really
Organizing your files
by Kevin Welchman 4 months ago
Hi guys, I know organization isnt the most exciting topic, but I could really use some advice. I am the only Motion Designer at my job so I am the only one who is going through my files. However I am
Re: Organizing your files
by Mike Sevigny 4 months ago
Files that are named the same could pose a serious problem. Get into the habit of renaming those to something descriptive of the specific file. Organizing files is not always easy but it's specific to
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Which computer to buy
by tiago veloso 5 months ago
Hello. I have to buy a new computer. My old Mac mini is not working quickly with After Effects (10 years old!!!). I want to buy a good and cheap laptop. But I don't know what to choose (maximum 1000 e
Re: Which computer to buy
by Chris Evans 5 months ago
Your CPU and RAM are the most important. I'd recommend buying finding the best combo of those that you can. Don't get something with a crappy graphics card and keep it Nvidia. Go with at least 1GB or
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CC Ball Action disable self shadow
by Artsiom Chikov 5 months ago
Hello! The whole day I'm trying to turn off the self shadow effect from CC Ball Action I tried to apply the Shadow Highlight effect, change blending mode from normal to screen. I'm just want to get a
Re: CC Ball Action disable self shadow
by Kevin Camp 5 months ago
this may work for you... try adding a gray solid (128 for all the rgb values, if working b-bit) and hide it. then add these effects to your ball-action layer (after ball action): channel combiner set
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FYI True Type Fonts Slowing us down
by Alex Udell 5 months ago
Hi Guys... We noticed a problem under AE 2014 and AE 2015 for a clients that were utilizing one particular font. This font was available in both True Type and Open Type formats. One person had both ve
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Re: FYI True Type Fonts Slowing us down
by Walter Soyka 5 months ago
Alex, I'd highly encourage you to submit a bug report link on this, if you haven't already. Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live link Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Des
Crisis! All my film material just disappeared
by Morten Slemdal 1 year ago
I ve been cutting my movie, and when opening it up this morning - everything is gone. Its not my hard drive, because all other stuff is in there. And i ve looked at the project in finder, and everythi
Re: Crisis! All my film material just disappeared
by Jeremy Garchow 5 months ago
Honestly, Phil. Please take the shivs to the debate forum. This is the techniques forum. We try to keep it civil here and offer help.
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot trailer
by Oliver Peters 5 months ago
First trailer is out for the next film from the "Focus" team. Edited on FCP X. https: www.youtube.com watch v=dxAcIWDi8ps - Oliver Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC Orlando, FL www.oliverpet
Re: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot trailer
by Jeremy Garchow 5 months ago
Im cutting a BTS of a feature and I just painted a spider out of a window from some of the supplied footage from the movie. My guess is that take won't make the final film, but it's in a version given
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Suggested Setup on Raided Drive
by Daniel Burrell 6 months ago
I just upgraded to a new Mac Pro with raidable Thunderbolt storage. All of our media is backed up archive drives, so there is no need to use raided storage for that, but if possible I would like to st
Re: Suggested Setup on Raided Drive
by Walter Soyka 5 months ago
Thunderbay doesn't have a RAID controller, right Have you tried SoftRAID Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live link Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
Hate and Love
by Simon Ubsdell 6 months ago
If you're anything like me (and I guess you're probably lucky if you're not), you will be deeply conflicted about the applications that you use. When I'm in After Effects, I wish it could be more like
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Re: Hate and Love
by Jeremy Garchow 6 months ago
Walter Soyka "Oh my goodness, your post is 125x more efficient in word-count than mine was. " Just go trackless, my friend. It's 125x more efficient. heh heh.... heh... I'm a dullard.
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what is editing speed ?
by Herb Sevush 6 months ago
I wanted to starting a new thread based on this whole concept of editing speed. As per the previous thread ( https: forums.creativecow.net readpost 335 85784 ) I agree that it is hard to quantify exac
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Re: what is editing speed ?
by Jeremy Garchow 6 months ago
There have been enough deserters. I hope, Simon, you'll be back on other threads as I, for one, value your balanced opinion and your insight from a developers point of view. Not to mention, your plugi
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Editing Speed Part 2.
by Charlie Austin 6 months ago
As the last thread kinda veered into the usual cowg-mire, I thought I d start a nice, clean sequel. If you re new to this thread, please check out Herb s excellent kick-off post here. Actually, you sh
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Re: Editing Speed Part 2.
by Jeremy Garchow 6 months ago
I agree. And to your point, when adding assets to the timeline, you can easily change big groups of assets. If you have a bunch of clips with 8 channels of audio, you can select them all, turn off all
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Tutorial: Blackmagic Design Fusion 8 Intro Tutorial: Fusion Reactor
by Simon Ubsdell 6 months ago
Blackmagic Design Fusion Blackmagic Design Fusion 8 Intro Tutorial: Fusion Reactor Blackmagic Design Fusion has long been known as an incredibly powerful node-based 3D compositing and VFX environment
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Re: Blackmagic Design Fusion 8 Intro Tutorial: Fusion Reactor
by Walter Soyka 6 months ago
Nice work, Simon, and beautifully presented! Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live link Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting @keenlive twitter  &nb
FCP 7 / Multitrack on Yosemite?
by Michael Brown 6 months ago
Hi folks, In reply to my previous posts and questions, many of which were nicely answered: It appears that the drive speed is an essential factor. Up to a few days ago I was using 4TB LaCie drives, on
Re: FCP 7 / Multitrack on Yosemite?
by Walter Soyka 6 months ago
Roger Poole "As far as I can understand, the Mac OS, particularly Yosemite, disables the trim function on third party SSD's and this leads to premature failure." You can enable trim on third-party SS
Nuke Studio?
by David Mathis 6 months ago
Been contemplating switching to it but want to know if anyone here uses it. Looks promising, even with the high price of admission. Not having to round trip as much is nice. The magnetic timeline, it'
Re: Nuke Studio?
by Walter Soyka 6 months ago
What sort of work do you want to do with it If you already own NUKE or NUKEX, there's a 50% discount on NUKE STUDIO upgrades through the end of the year: http: www.thefoundry.co.uk about-us news-award
From the Adobe AE forum
by Dave LaRonde 6 months ago
A lot of people in here edit, and don't use After Effects. Some do. For those who don't, there has been great frustration over AE CC 2015. The new version broke features that previously worked just fi
Re: From the Adobe AE forum
by Walter Soyka 6 months ago
In Ae CC 2014 and prior, Ae's performance was seriously limited by its underlying design. Ae CC 2015 is a major re-architecture, separating the renderer from the UI for the first time in Ae's 20+ year
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El Capitan Metal performance
by Chris Stevens 6 months ago
Please forgive my ignorance, but is there an improvement in rendering speed when running El Capitain Chris Stevens - Waterline Media. Marine Production Company. FCPX,Motion,AE, Resolve
Re: El Capitan Metal performance
by Walter Soyka 6 months ago
The headlines from WWDC weren't very clear, but Metal is not an OS feature that provides performance increases "for free" just by virtue of running El Capitan. Metal is a new graphics API, and applica
Price increase Teams - personal licenses next?
by Herbert van der wegen 7 months ago
Adobe's message: Creative Cloud Price Increase Adobe Creative Cloud for Teams prices are increasing significantly starting on November 27, 2015. If you're looking at adding any seats, now's the time t
Re: Price increase Teams - personal licenses next?
by Walter Soyka 6 months ago
Jim Wiseman "One person's dropping of an "introductory offer" equals another man's price hike. Bottom line, they are raising the cost by $240 year per seat on November 27." The introductory offer was
Creative Cloud Holiday Discount Accounting?
by Bill Davis 7 months ago
So lots of email today and ads with DEEP discounts for a first year of CC. Like pushing near 70% off. IIRC the earlier discussions here the idea advanced was that the subscription rate didn't reflect
Re: Creative Cloud Holiday Discount Accounting?
by Walter Soyka 6 months ago
Bill Davis "IIRC the earlier discussions here the idea advanced was that the subscription rate didn't reflect the value of the subscribers but rather was supposed to represent the "value" of the soft


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