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Upgrading our suites, seriously need some advice...
by Todd Terry 4 weeks ago
Hi guys... I'll probably post this in Premiere or elsewhere, but thought I'd ask in here first... hope this is not too long, bear with me. We're probably going to upgrade our two main suites this year
Re: Upgrading our suites, seriously need some advice...
by Bob Zelin 19 hours ago
Bill is completely correct. I have not read thru the entire post and all the threads, but the game has totally changed. Everything is based on IP today. Believe me, for someone who comes from a backgr
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yet another political post that will get pulled from Cow -
by Bob Zelin 5 days ago
hey - wait - it's about OUR industry ! from the mainstream press - Martina McBride and her husband are being sued by an unpaid intern for 1 Million dollars, for having to do "menial labor" - "Accordin
Re: yet another political post that will get pulled from Cow -
by Bob Zelin 2 days ago
one thing we ALL can agree on - LONG LIVE THE COW ! Bob Zelin Bob Zelin Rescue 1, Inc. bobzelin@icloud.com
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LaCie drives do not work on all iMacs
by Patrick Fries 5 months ago
I'm having problems getting all of my LaCie drives to open on my three iMacs. I have two LaCie 5big Thunderbolt 2 drives (2015) and a new LaCie 2big Dock Thunderbolt 3 drive (2017), and all of them ar
Re: LaCie drives do not work on all iMacs
by Bob Zelin 4 days ago
new Mac systems that have SSD boot drives will format with the new Apple APFS file format, not HFS+. If your drive is formatted with AFPS, this cannot be read on an Mac with an older operating system.
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Server or something
by Stephen Smith 6 days ago
I'm looking for the best option to connect 2 iMac Pro's together so we can edit off the same drive. I'm looking at the QNAP TVS-1282T3 unless it makes more sense to use or do something else. Any thoug
Re: Server or something
by Bob Zelin 5 days ago
on the way ! Bob Zelin Bob Zelin Rescue 1, Inc. bobzelin@icloud.com
QNAP FCP X Slowdown/Beachball Issue via Thunderbolt 3 & SMB 3 (TVS-1282T3)
by Nikos Papadopoulos 4 months ago
Hey everyone from chilly Athens! A problem with thunderbolt 3 and FCP X is driving me nuts and was looking towards your wisdom and experiences to help track this issue down. Connected to the NAS via T
Re: QNAP FCP X Slowdown/Beachball Issue via Thunderbolt 3 & SMB 3 (TVS-1282T3)
by Bob Zelin 6 days ago
Hi David - I will summarize what I am saying. Imagine that your air conditioning stopped working. Imagine that your car stopped working. Imagine that your wife girlfriend needed minor surgery. And you
Portable NAS for Editing
by Nick Ralf 2 weeks ago
Hi all. I would appreciate your help and advice. I would like to get something that is small, ultra portable and can be connected to 2 video edit stations. Everything I have found so far has been pret
Re: Portable NAS for Editing
by Bob Zelin 1 week ago
I LOVE that picture - it actually looks like my mother ! Bob Zelin Bob Zelin Rescue 1, Inc. bobzelin@icloud.com
iMac Pro thoughts
by Oliver Peters 5 months ago
For those of you who have taken the plunge with the new iMac Pro, what are your thoughts now Worth it over a 2013 Mac Pro or 5K iMac Or are you waiting for the next Mac Pro In my case, I work at a sho
Re: iMac Pro thoughts
by Bob Zelin 1 week ago
Hi Andrew - you can get a nice 2017 iMac with thunderbolt 3 ports, and get the Sonnet eGFX box with the Vega 64 for $1299 right from Sonnet. And for your 10G port, you can just spend $177, and get the
Any Cloud based SAN/NAS solutions out there
by Doug Bassett 1 week ago
Does anyone know if there are any solutions from Oracle, AWS, etc.. for a cloud based SAN capable of UHD ProRes 422 playback to multiple clients I'm leaning towards the EVO http: www.studionetworksolu
Re: Any Cloud based SAN/NAS solutions out there
by Bob Zelin 1 week ago
Doug writes - I was assuming the speeds were not there yet w out proxy, just wasn't sure. I've used edit share before, it just wasn't viable for us. The EVO has been great for for the past few years s
managing organizing logging external drives
by Robert Withers 1 week ago
Hello, I'm up to 6 external drives onsite -- some for active work some backups -- and 3 external drives offsite (backups in a safe deposit box). Plus internal drives in 3 laptops. Physical labels help
Re: managing organizing logging external drives
by Bob Zelin 1 week ago
what did people do before network storage technology We used videotape, and people had videotape libraries, that also needed to be organized. So you can think of your separate drives as videotapes (or
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QNAP and Promise Rack Systems
by Ian Nalepa 7 months ago
First, just want to say thanks to all who share great advice and ideas on this forum. Recently, I've been reading and learning a lot on shared storage for video production... After seeing mention of m
Re: QNAP and Promise Rack Systems
by Bob Zelin 1 week ago
the TS-1677 is a TS-1685, but with an AMD Ryzen processor instead of the Intel Processor. I am sure it is excellent, but I have never installed one. If you want to be the first one that I know to get
connecting AVID and PREMIERE PRO. Editing at the same time
by Ida Hugge 2 weeks ago
Hi, We are two editors for the same project -- One using AVID MC and one using PREMIERE PRO. We can't get the programs to talk. How do we do that The computer that has Premiere on it runs 4K, but the
Re: connecting AVID and PREMIERE PRO. Editing at the same time
by Bob Zelin 2 weeks ago
you can't even make up posts like this. It just has to come to you. "But we can't afford another Adobe License, and the AVID editor is old, and just wants to use their old system". But then again - it
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Moving a large NAS
by Kevin Merinsky 2 weeks ago
Hey All, I have a G-Rack12 NAS with about 15TB of data on it. I have all of the important files backed up to BackBlaze B2. I need to move the NAS to another building a couple blocks away. It's pretty
Re: Moving a large NAS
by Bob Zelin 2 weeks ago
get a friend to help you. Leave the drives in the system. Power down the unit. TWO PEOPLE carry it into your car. You drive to the next building. Your friend, who drove with you, helps you out with th
RAID01 or RAID10
by Neil Sadwelkar 2 weeks ago
For RAID enclosures with 4 or more (even number of) drives, RAID10 is one of the recommended RAID schemes, for speed and safety. RAID5 and RAID6 being the more popular RAID levels, particularly for 6
Re: RAID01 or RAID10
by Bob Zelin 2 weeks ago
I would not do a RAID01 or RAID10. Period. Mirroring in 2018 Bob Bob Zelin Rescue 1, Inc. bobzelin@icloud.com
QNAP TS-453BT3, QNAP TVS-873e or thunderbolt 3 local storage
by Michael McDade 3 weeks ago
I'm trying to decide on a storage for a iMac Pro that will being doing 4k educational & documentary work. I'm just a one person shop at the moment so the offerings from Promise Pegasus3 Series & G-SPE
Re: QNAP TS-453BT3, QNAP TVS-873e or thunderbolt 3 local storage
by Bob Zelin 2 weeks ago
installing a QNAP or Synology or Netgear ReadyNAS involves a complex setup. If you are a single user, and just want to plug in a big fast drive array, and not have to pay someone for the setup, and no
Brand New Black Magic Build
by Melanie Foote 4 weeks ago
I'm building a brand new Black Magic studio, from scratch. My goal is to shoot web-based learning in a format where I can transition from camera, to camera PPT combo (OBS studio), to PPT only during t
Re: Brand New Black Magic Build
by Bob Zelin 3 weeks ago
Hi - well, I gave you a "starter list", but you posted this. The Multidock is an SSD card reader. If you get the more expensive Hyperdeck recorders, instead of the less expensive Teranex mini recorder
Classification of Business
by Rob Gatewood 4 weeks ago
I wanted to ask if anyone here knows and or can pinpoint how business, as a whole, is classified Is it it's own category, or can it be considered a subset and a combination of formal, social and appli
Re: Classification of Business
by Bob Zelin 4 weeks ago
Rob writes " Is it it's own category, or can it be considered a subset and a combination of formal, social and applied science " REPLY - Grinner and myself believe that you are not in the professional
Tool on a MAC
by Nate Jasper 1 month ago
Hello, I'm wondering if Mac users are running Droid the file format identification tool It's a free Java app from the UK national archives. I'm in a digital preservation class and the professor has re
Re: Tool on a MAC
by Bob Zelin 4 weeks ago
do you mean this - http: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk information-management manage-information preserving-digital-records droid then based on this - https: support.apple.com en-us HT204036 this is the
Where to find Da Vinci 14?
by Robert Withers 1 month ago
Hello, Reposting because cow said I used a bad word: t******s Da Vinci web is all about 15. An apple store review said that was a bad version, slow and glitchy. When I search I feel like I'm on the da
Re: Where to find Da Vinci 14?
by Bob Zelin 1 month ago
where to find Davinci 14 Umm, it's on the Blackmagic website, under support. Its directly below Davinci 15 https: www.blackmagicdesign.com support family davinci-resolve-and-fusion thats not the "dark
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I have a film I did a few years ago I want to save for the long term. Best way to do that?
by Noam Osband 1 month ago
I made a film a few years ago, and the entire project was about 5 TB's large. I occasionally need to grab something from it or some stills, but I rarely work on it more. The hard drives it's back up o
Re: I have a film I did a few years ago I want to save for the long term. Best way to do that?
by Bob Zelin 1 month ago
these are not "better drives". The HGST NAS series are "desk star" or desktop series drives. The "better" drives are Enterprise or Ultrastar drives. WD GOLD for example are "better drives". The HGST N
The Competition?
by Scott Witthaus 1 month ago
In some sense, yes: https: vimeo.com 266289590 Scott Witthaus Senior Editor Visual Storyteller https: vimeo.com channels 1322525 Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC Professor, VCU Brandcenter
Re: The Competition?
by Bob Zelin 1 month ago
Look ! It's FREE, and I produced my multi million dollar feature film - and now I am rich and married to a Kardashian, all using FREE tools ! WOO HOO - I had lobster for dinner, and I drive a Ferrari,
Areca RAID High Pitched Whine/Tone
by Geoff Windosor 1 month ago
So, I'm pretty sure I know where this goes, but I've got an old Areca ARC-4036 that's been in constant use since circa 2008 Over the years multiple drives have been hot swapped due to impending drive
Re: Areca RAID High Pitched Whine/Tone
by Bob Zelin 1 month ago
let me be clear - NO ONE is going to REPAIR your box. Let's say the power supply is failing, and it's a bad capacitor in the power supply that costs 6 dollars. NO ONE IN THE WORLD is going to put the
Pegasus3 R8 RAID for 4k Video Editing and Storage
by Curt Goodwin 1 month ago
Hi all, Looking for some help with choosing the right RAID configuration. I just started working for a small brand running the photo video studio and I want to upgrade what is a very primitive workflo
Re: Pegasus3 R8 RAID for 4k Video Editing and Storage
by Bob Zelin 1 month ago
boy oh boy, this is a confusing post - both this one, and your second post. 1) Promise does not sell empty RAID arrays. They come populated, and are pre raided for your use. 2) you expect to have shar
The new Reality Distortion Field.
by Bill Davis 1 month ago
It s been a curious month. For the first three weeks, an incredible amount of what I read regarding Apple was about how the iPhone X was a poor selling failure. That message rang out across a huge arr
Re: The new Reality Distortion Field.
by Bob Zelin 1 month ago
I am an iPhone owner. You want flaws I make my living by being on the phone. I have a professional Plantronics headset that is plugged into the phone. Why is there no headphone jack on the iPhone X Pe
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SSD capacity needed to run OS & cs6 - Also HDD size for work files - to edit r3d 4k feature film
by tom lewis 2 months ago
Hi Is 1TB SSD size enough to run win7 OS & CS6, to edit r3d 4k feature film Also is raid 0 24TB enough for the edit, work files etc (not source media - that's external, probably about 50TB) Thanks
Re: SSD capacity needed to run OS & cs6 - Also HDD size for work files - to edit r3d 4k feature film
by Bob Zelin 2 months ago
Win 7 - you know that they don't make Win 7 anymore. Win 10 only. So I guess you have an old computer. CS6 - they don't make that anymore - so I guess you have a free copy with a serial # for CS6, and
Update old CPUs before buying server? And Storinator from 45Drives
by Geoff Birmingham 4 months ago
First, I don't see that anyone has mentioned the Storinator from 45 Drives as an option for a storage server. http: www.45drives.com. Just curious to know if anyone has used one of their products. I h
Re: Update old CPUs before buying server? And Storinator from 45Drives
by Bob Zelin 2 months ago
45 Drives called me and said that they would train me this week. Let's see what happens. Bob Zelin Bob Zelin Rescue 1, Inc. bobzelin@icloud.com
Apple and the relentless pursuit of excellence ...
by Simon Ubsdell 2 months ago
https: www.youtube.com watch v=AUaJ8pDlxi8 Simon Ubsdell tokyo productions hawaiki
Re: Apple and the relentless pursuit of excellence ...
by Bob Zelin 2 months ago
Louis Rossmann is possibly the best Apple tech in the United States. He has all the facilities to repair Apple products at component level - to the dismay of Apple. And he has had numerous threats of
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new drives in Sonnet R800 / Atto R380
by Rainer Wirth 2 months ago
Hi folks, we've still got a SAS raid Sonnet R800 with Atto 380 Card. So far, the raid is still running smoothly. The Drives (Hitachi HUA 3TB) are no longer available. So my Question: I would like to r
Re: new drives in Sonnet R800 / Atto R380
by Bob Zelin 2 months ago
yes ! Bob Bob Zelin Rescue 1, Inc. bobzelin@icloud.com
Promise SanLink2
by Simon Blackledge 4 years ago
Anyone had a play with one of these in 10Gig Bast-T form Seem cheaper than Atto Thunderlink but does that mean not as good S
Re: Promise SanLink2
by Bob Zelin 2 months ago
Hi Chris - I have no idea of why you added to a post that started in 2014, and ended in 2016. You should have started a new post for this. 1) . You own a SNS EVO. Why don't you call SNS for support 2)
AVID MediaCentral
by Ben Harris 2 months ago
With the big announcements from AVID at NAB recently I've been very interested in MediaCentral. Does anybody use it and know what it actually does It's hard to find a decent non-salesy answer on their
Re: AVID MediaCentral
by Bob Zelin 2 months ago
I am not sure if Ben is looking for an Interplay type system, or just the ability to use Media Composer on a generic shared storage system. If it's the latter (use Media Composer systems with a cheap
MAC Pro release Date
by holden crawford 2 months ago
we will wait and see https: www.engadget.com 2018 04 05 apple-2019-mac-pro-shaped-by-customers
Re: MAC Pro release Date
by Bob Zelin 2 months ago
sometimes I get SO ANGRY reading comments from Steve Connor and Bill Davis (even though they are nice guys). It seems that NO MATTER WHAT Apple does - it's ok - it's all Apple, just go along with it.
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Way OT: Burn DVD for set top box
by Scott Witthaus 2 months ago
Yes, someone is asking what's the best software for burning a DVD for a set top player on the latest OS. All advice appreciated. Scott Scott Witthaus Senior Editor Visual Storyteller https: vimeo.com
Re: Way OT: Burn DVD for set top box
by Bob Zelin 2 months ago
I got asked this by a major corporation in Orlando recently. I was astounded that they did not acknowledge that a USB flash drive, or simple internet connection to watch a training video on line, was
Apple to ditch Intel?
by David Mathis 3 months ago
Just saw this on Facebook: https: www.reuters.com article us-apple-mac-intel apple-plans-to-replace-intel-chips-in-macs-with-its-own-bloomberg-idUSKCN1H91N5 Questions that come to mind: 1. What does t
Re: Apple to ditch Intel?
by Bob Zelin 3 months ago
this is my opinion, and of course, I am looking to "start trouble". Way back when, when Apple first purchased Final Cut from Macromedia, the "concept was to plug in a Firewire 400 cable into your DV c
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eGPU support in OSX 10.13.4
by Steve Connor 3 months ago
Looking forward to reading how this might work with FCPX https: support.apple.com en-us HT208544 "Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines " W.Soyka
Re: eGPU support in OSX 10.13.4
by Bob Zelin 3 months ago
all that really matters here is Adobe C C, and Davinci Resolve (and this forum replies with "well, just use Apple software). If Adobe and Resolve continue to push the use of GPU acceleration with Nvid
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two different HD's in one Raid ?
by Rainer Wirth 3 months ago
Hi folks, we use 3TB Hitachi Ultrastars within our raids. The spares have gone and I bought also 3TB Hitachi Ultrastars, but with a different Number. The 3TB Ultrastars in our raids are all HUA723030A
Re: two different HD's in one Raid ?
by Bob Zelin 3 months ago
it will work just fine. bob Zelin Bob Zelin Rescue 1, Inc. bobzelin@icloud.com
New 4k workstation 02
by Rainer Wirth 3 months ago
Hi folks, following raid idea: Netstor 16 bay with areca ARC-1883IX-16 raid controller card. 16x hgst HUH721010AL5200 10TB 12gb s sas drives, 2 spare HD's. Any suggestions input welcome, cheers Rainer
Re: New 4k workstation 02
by Bob Zelin 3 months ago
It's hard to find distribution for Netstor these days. Areca makes a wonderful host card that works very well with Mac computers. The Netstor product is reliable, but most people stick with G-Tech Stu
experiences with optical thunderbolt cables ?
by Rainer Wirth 3 months ago
Hi folks, has anybody experiences with optical thunderbolt connections cheers Rainer factstory Rainer Wirth phone_0049-177-2156086 Mac pro 8core Adobe,FCP,Avid several raid systems
Re: experiences with optical thunderbolt cables ?
by Bob Zelin 3 months ago
yes - Corning makes them. They are thunderbolt 2 only. There are currently no thunderbolt 3 optical cables. They are expensive. You might as well stick with a 10G adaptor, and cheap Cat 6 cabling. Esp
What would you do?
by Greg Ball 3 months ago
Happy Monday everyone. So here's a different situation. I know you've all heard about the tragic bridge collapse in Miami this past week. We were hired by one of the construction partners to shoot and
Re: What would you do?
by Bob Zelin 3 months ago
well this is disgusting, and I should be ashamed of myself (but since you are in Florida, and are probably familiar with ambulance chasers like Morgan & Morgan) - I bet the attorneys that will sue the
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Pocket UltraScope
by Richard Crowley 3 months ago
It appears that BMD have dropped the Pocket UltraScope. Does anyone have an alternative solution My main interest is the ability to view the HD-SDI eye pattern for integration and maintenance support.
Re: Pocket UltraScope
by Bob Zelin 3 months ago
whats a waveform monitor what's an Eye Pattern What's a Lightning Display - aah - words from a distant past. I would not worry about a tiny scope to look at SDI signals. The future (the near future )
Raid Drives in "toaster" keeps Ejecting from computer
by Alan Callaghan 4 months ago
Greetings! So, I recently had my Laci Raid 6TB drive fail. Sadly, it was RAID-0. Just to check everything, I scanned the drive and it said one of the drives was "Failed", and for the heck of it, switc
Re: Raid Drives in "toaster" keeps Ejecting from computer
by Bob Zelin 4 months ago
Hi Rainer - #1) - he said it was a Lacie 6TB, and while he does not give any details about what model he had (other than it was discontinued) - I will assume it's two 3TB SATA drives (probably from Sa
free or low cost tape backup software? (and is there a point)
by Rachael Busher 5 months ago
Hoping to become an LTO Ultrium user here in the next couple months... just still deciding which drive (in my other post - anyone with suggestions WHICH drive to get please post ) and figuring out my
Re: free or low cost tape backup software? (and is there a point)
by Bob Zelin 4 months ago
Hi Rachael - OMG ! I know that you feel that I am attacking you with my response, and I fully appreciate that you are a very VERY ambitious student (more than most professionals I know) - but I have t
Accusys 4K Thunderbolt 3 Multi Users Collaboration
by Jimmy Holcomb 4 months ago
Interesting, would be perfect for the features I produce. Maybe more expensive than the Qnaps. https: www.prlog.org 12691793-accusys-4k-thunderbolt-3-multi-users-collaboration.html
Re: Accusys 4K Thunderbolt 3 Multi Users Collaboration
by Bob Zelin 4 months ago
Hi Jimmy - why would you do this today Why would you want to run XSAN on a dedicated computer to do shared storage, when it's all self contained by products from companies like QNAP and Synology, for
seeking advise on NAS for nearline archive solution
by Paul Dougherty 4 months ago
Hi, After a brief encounter with Drobo 5N unit I m trying to learn more about NAS. I don t have much expertise in this area but have a hunch the best scenario for the non-profit I m helping will invol
Re: seeking advise on NAS for nearline archive solution
by Bob Zelin 4 months ago
I am so confused by your post. Creative Cow has both NAS and SAN forums, yet you are asking questions about Network attached storage, on the Archiving and Backup forum. You state that in the past, I m
replace dead hihgpoint rocketraid 4322
by jeanke bos 5 months ago
My 8 year old RR 4322 died few days ago. So I have no acces anymore to my proavio raid 6 array on my mac pro 5,1. What do you recommend to replace my 4322 Do I have to stick to the same brand I guess
Re: replace dead hihgpoint rocketraid 4322
by Bob Zelin 4 months ago
As Rainer said, we make our living doing this. I can only relate this to other simple professions. If you want to be an Uber driver, and you say "my brother gave me his old car, and I want to fix it u
Intercom Breakout for New Fiber Module
by Robert Soto 4 months ago
I am looking for a breakout cable that is compatible with the Blackmagic studio fiber converter intercom connector.
Re: Intercom Breakout for New Fiber Module
by Bob Zelin 4 months ago
This product was just announced. I am sure that Blackmagic will have something. I have SO many questions about this - the connection is to a 25 pin connector for "third party intercom systems". Does t
Promise SANLink2 vs. iMac Pro 10gbe
by Brian Covalt 5 months ago
For the last couple years I've been using a couple SANLink2 adapters to get 10gbe on my server and client machines (that have thunderbolt, for older machines, using a PCI card to get 10gbe). I've neve
Re: Promise SANLink2 vs. iMac Pro 10gbe
by Bob Zelin 4 months ago
disable SMB signing on your Mac's to get SMB speeds to work correctly. Stop using the Mac mini as a server Bob Zelin Bob Zelin Rescue 1, Inc. bobzelin@icloud.com
DirecTV to SDI problems
by Sven Sivertson 5 months ago
Hello, I Have installed in a Sports Bar (1) Cox Cable box to Monoprice HDMI to SDI (8) DirecTv boxes: (3) Using Monoprice Analog to HDMI into BMD micro HDMI to SDI converters (1) Using BMD Analog comp
Re: DirecTV to SDI problems
by Bob Zelin 5 months ago
take the Direct TV analog component YPbPr output (and analog audio) into a Blackmagic or AJA Analog to SDI converter. It will work perfectly fine. Bob Zelin Bob Zelin Rescue 1, Inc. bobzelin@icloud.co
Naming a company: 'Production' or 'Productions'?
by Yang Aming 5 months ago
Hello! Aside from the obvious, what is the difference between using 'Production' or 'Productions' in your company name e.g. ABC Production or ABC Productions My own understanding goes like this: If it
Re: Naming a company: 'Production' or 'Productions'?
by Bob Zelin 5 months ago
whoever is telling you this information is out of their minds. You can call it anything you like. Just make sure to incorporate in your local state to secure the name. bob Zelin Bob Zelin Rescue 1, In
BRU PE Tape Import Tool won't authenticate - "BRU PE Not Installed" - FALSE
by Jim Curtis 5 months ago
I'm having unbelievably bad luck with BRU PE lately. It magically stopped accepting my password on my El Capitan installation after working fine for months, so I did a totally clean install of Sierra
Re: BRU PE Tape Import Tool won't authenticate - "BRU PE Not Installed" - FALSE
by Bob Zelin 5 months ago
retrospect - really - certainly not in 2018 - how are they still in business. "A German company " - oh come one, who besides Archiware P5 are we talking about- its not like they are a sponsor that thi
can someone here explain Reddit to me
by Bob Zelin 5 months ago
Hi - I know that Reddit is one of the most popular web sites in existence. But I just don't get it. It's not Creative Cow It's not Provideo Coalition it's not FCP X It's not Red User.net it's not any
Re: can someone here explain Reddit to me
by Jenna Lopez 1 month ago
I wouldn't really recommend using Reddit for professional use. Much like the other social media websites, it appeals more to users who like to talk about current events and post "memes". Most people u
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