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Andrew Kimery

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I'm an editor in Los Angeles that mainly works in the documentary/unscripted genre.
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November 4th 2006
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The Lion King - A rant about semantics
by Todd Terry 5 days ago
This forum has been slow so I thought I'd take the opportunity to rant. I've just read a blurb where someone, some thing, or some article is referring to Disney's The Lion King as a live action re-mak
Re: The Lion King - A rant about semantics
by Andrew Kimery 3 days ago
Rich Rubasch "It's PETA....they want people to think that animals are just like humans so we stop eating them. This film will accomplish exactly that....a new generation of young children growing up
The new Mac Pro....now made in China!
by Rich Rubasch 3 weeks ago
I wonder if somewhere inside the case we will find a little sticker that says "Made in China" Too bad...it kind of tarnishes the whole thing, and it won't make Trump happy! https: www.cnn.com 2019 06
Re: The new Mac Pro....now made in China!
by Andrew Kimery 1 week ago
Hate to break it to you Bill and Bob... but you both can be right as the topic is pretty multifaceted. For example, Flex got f'ed by delays related to a bespoke screw used in the Mac Pro. https: apple
Openness between tools - waning?
by Oliver Peters 3 weeks ago
As each NLE becomes more full-featured in its own right, is open timeline exchange between different products going away or at least being de-emphasized FCPX only allows some exchange thanks to Intell
Re: Openness between tools - waning?
by Andrew Kimery 3 weeks ago
It's been a common complaint of mine for years. Yeah, I get why companies want to keep users in ecosystems, but it's just such a PITA as an end user at times. Oliver Peters "That being said, BMD seems
September could be interesting
by Oliver Peters 4 weeks ago
Add to the Mac Pro release rumor - a 16" MBP rumor https: 9to5mac.com 2019 06 24 new-16-inch-macbook-pro-rumored-to-launch-in-fall - Oliver Oliver Peters - oliverpeters.com
Re: September could be interesting
by Andrew Kimery 4 weeks ago
Oliver Peters "Yes, but for many others, they are the primary editing tool. " Exactly, which is why I said I know many people missed the 17" after Apple EOL'd them, just not me personally. ;)
Have I hit the limit of what Premiere can handle? Cutting a 4k doc, I don't think a new $40k 2019 Mac Pro would even improve things...
by Bryan Roberts 1 month ago
Hi all, Cutting a feature doc in Premiere in a 4k timeline. It's TRT is only around one hour. It's a coming of age surfing doc with a ton of footage and it's mainly 4k RED, GoPro, DJI, and A7s with so
Re: Have I hit the limit of what Premiere can handle? Cutting a 4k doc, I don't think a new $40k 2019 Mac Pro would even improve things...
by Andrew Kimery 1 month ago
Bryan Roberts "Ah, this is an interesting angle. So, full disclosure, I keep a very messy timeline. I always have since FCP days almost 2 decades ago. I cut almost 20 features, some that went theatri
Apple dropping codec support...repercussions
by Shane Ross 1 month ago
So, Apple in it's infinite and ever-forward thinking wisdom, dropped support for many many legacy codecs. The excuse was that they weren't 64 bit compatible and they are moving to all 64-bit processin
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Re: Apple dropping codec support...repercussions
by Andrew Kimery 1 month ago
Brett Sherman "Many cameras these days shoot on a high bandwidth variation of H.264. H.265 is coming soon." I was thinking more along the lines of ingesting tape-based media or film.
The Cheese Grater is back
by Craig Seeman 2 months ago
The Cheese Grater is back with 8 PCIe slots. The Kremlinologist can examine the FCPX screenshot. Afterburner. Things that make you go hmmm.
Re: The Cheese Grater is back
by Andrew Kimery 1 month ago
Oliver Peters "Correct. That's my concern. It appears that the intention is to mount drives into an MPX module, like Promise is planning to release. Therefore, I would presume that if you wanted to a
Metal/the next FCP X re-write - and InfinityFabric
by Bill Davis 1 month ago
Sarah Kimberly Euschen , an editor motion graphic pro who is very active in the higher-end internet X groups, has written a cool piece about why the new MacPro design might represent a breakthrough in
Re: Metal/the next FCP X re-write - and InfinityFabric
by Andrew Kimery 1 month ago
Oliver Peters "However, the Japanese are already venturing into those areas. So it's not 2023. " NHK is always tinkering, and HD existed for decades before it finally found traction (for various reas
To hire or to coach an editor
by Nicolette Hurnen 1 month ago
Hi there I've recently filmed a documentary at Ihumaatao, New Zealand about the injustices that have happened and continue to happen to the the Kainga Iwi (tribe). (Here's an article I wrote on the ma
Re: To hire or to coach an editor
by Andrew Kimery 1 month ago
I'd say find the best editor you can that you think mesh well with you and with the project and also find a member of the Kainga Iwi to act as a producer on the film to help during the edit. But as Ma
Collaboration - how do you make it work?
by Simon Ubsdell 3 months ago
When you're working as part of a team, how do you approach the issue of collaboration When a team-mate suggests an idea, how do you respond Is your immediate reaction to subject it to the most robust
Re: Collaboration - how do you make it work?
by Andrew Kimery 3 months ago
I'll lead into this by saying I like getting notes in person because it allows for an opportunity to discuss them (as opposed to in an email where it's much harder to have a good back and fourth). If
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FCPX Oscar win
by Oliver Peters 5 months ago
Congrats to "Skin". https: oscar.go.com nominees short-film-live-action skin http: www.fcp.co final-cut-pro articles 2144-surprising-anti-racist-short-movie-edited-with-final-cut-pro-x-gets-nominated-
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Re: FCPX Oscar win
by Oliver Peters 5 months ago
Andrew Kimery "but couldn't recall that "Focus"" He just wasn't able to focus in on it - Oliver Oliver Peters - oliverpeters.com
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What is the single most important skill an editor needs to develop?
by Simon Ubsdell 8 months ago
I'd be fascinated to hear your thoughts, but first here's mine: You need to be able to watch and listen for the first time every single time you hit play. In other words you need to develop your own p
Re: What is the single most important skill an editor needs to develop?
by Andrew Kimery 5 months ago
Simon Ubsdell "That's an absolutely brilliant answer. I don't think it can be bettered." Thank you, Simon. Every now and then I have a timely moment of clarity that I like to share with the world. ;)
Tiering" the levels of service
by Duane Hurd 9 months ago
I've heard about "tiering" the levels of service offered to internal clients. (Gold silver bronze, etc). Who out there does this and how do you tier your services Duane Hurd Manager Creative Services
Re: Tiering" the levels of service
by Andrew Kimery 7 months ago
Zombie Thread warning. Mark Suszko "If you're telling them their project only rates a bronze-level service, though, does that provoke them into going off to DIY it without you " It's not that the inte
How can I avoid 'hard cuts' in editing?
by ryan elder 11 months ago
I am editing a short film, and I am experiencing trouble in editing from scene to scene. Basically it feels like the cuts are too 'hard', or not sure how to put it. Basically when transitioning from s
Re: How can I avoid 'hard cuts' in editing?
by Andrew Kimery 11 months ago
I think it feels choppy because you've got a couple of quick cuts in there that don't give the viewer any new information. Give this a shot; have her walk off screen, then cut to the shot of the car d
Suitable Ecommerce Platform
by peter nguyen 1 year ago
Our restaurant needs to have a bilingual website in both English and Chinese. we currently do delivery and take-out orders, trying to finding a good solution to allow order online rather than phone ca
Re: Suitable Ecommerce Platform
by Andrew Kimery 1 year ago
I agree having a presence on social media is important, but I think a website (with a non-spammy mailing list) is imperative because it will always allow the business owner to control their own messag
yet another political post that will get pulled from Cow -
by Bob Zelin 1 year ago
hey - wait - it's about OUR industry ! from the mainstream press - Martina McBride and her husband are being sued by an unpaid intern for 1 Million dollars, for having to do "menial labor" - "Accordin
Re: yet another political post that will get pulled from Cow -
by Andrew Kimery 1 year ago
Bob Zelin "You have to do whatever it takes - especially in a competitive industry like we are in. " Yet here, on the COW, people help the competition every day. Mentors help their future competition
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Another Copyright question....sheeesh
by Greg Ball 1 year ago
So I'm working on a video for a client. They want me to use a clip they found on YouTube. This is a fight I often have, as i refuse to use video footage without the copyright owner's permission. I bel
Re: Another Copyright question....sheeesh
by Andrew Kimery 1 year ago
Don't give in, and feel free to mention the following (or something similar) to the client. Greg Ball "He wants to use the clip that s readily available to anyone who uses YouTube. " Books are readily
Trending freelance
by Rich Rubasch 1 year ago
Is anyone else seeing the trend toward a higher percentage of freelance workers in both post and production, directing and writing, than staff We have seen even our larger corporate in house slim down
Re: Trending freelance
by Andrew Kimery 1 year ago
Between independent contractors and staff employees there also sit freelance temp employees. Almost every editing gig out here in LA is for a temp freelance employee. I know some editors that form an
Need tips for syncing A/V for multicam
by Andrew Kimery 1 year ago
Looking for some multicam tips. I have a series of interviews (three so far) that are single camera, but have external audio. They were not TC jammed, but the camera recorded reference audio. The came
Re: Need tips for syncing A/V for multicam
by Andrew Kimery 1 year ago
Thanks for all the info, Joe. I'll give your suggests a shot and report back. I'll also submit a feature request asking Apple to improve their sync-by-audio feature so hopefully it can become more on
Editors Job - Relinking Media
by Vishal Handa 2 years ago
Hey there, My first post here. This may seem like a very simple question, but whose job is it to relink all the full resolution media when the timeline will be going to a colourist to colour grade. Is
Re: Editors Job - Relinking Media
by Andrew Kimery 2 years ago
IMO it's the editor's responsibility (or the assistant editor's if there is an assistant editor). I want the colorist to spend as much time as possible coloring and as little time as possible dealing
The Color Wheels Mystery ... An obviously wrong answer
by Simon Ubsdell 2 years ago
Oliver has pointed out to me that someone on Bill's Facebook discussion is suggesting that I am confused and that I am wrong to think that we should be expecting a Lift Gamma Gain model here. Instead
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Re: The Color Wheels Mystery ... An obviously wrong answer
by Bill Davis 2 years ago
Simons above post seems to me very useful advice. Many like me will be exploring this new implementation of well understood colorists tools and anything that helps people learn to go slowly and use re
Opensource Digital Video Asset Management for Doc production?
by Evgeny Magata 2 years ago
Hello there, i hope this is the right board for my question: I am looking for pointers best practices etc. for using a Digital Video Asset management Software (DAM) in the workflow of the production o
Re: Opensource Digital Video Asset Management for Doc production?
by Andrew Kimery 2 years ago
If you subscribe to Adobe Creative Cloud you should give Adobe Bridge a look. I don't have any recommendations experience with any open source solutions. Are you on a Mac or PC
Why FCPX?
by Steve Connor 2 years ago
I thought I'd beat Bill to it https: www.provideocoalition.com fcp-x-producers-pov-feature-film-daisy-winters
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Re: Why FCPX?
by Bill Davis 2 years ago
Michael Hancock "That's actually a thing! I was being cheeky! ---------------- Michael Hancock Editor" It appears we have entered the snark reality inception zone. Abandon hope all ye who enter... Cr
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Naming Convention Advice
by Matt Dunne 2 years ago
Hey all. I'm in the middle of updating my companies post workflow document for freelance editors and have been doing some thinking into our naming convention for sequences and exports. I'm a huge stic
Re: Naming Convention Advice
by Andrew Kimery 2 years ago
Call internal cuts "Internal_Cut" or "Internal_RC" and use "Rough_Cut" only things that go out of house I like keeping dates in file names too because sometimes people don't remember which version it
Dual-System Sound Question
by Ryan Patch 2 years ago
So, I'm used to working either with sound that's recorded straight to camera, or just syncing dual-system sound in a timeline (pluraleyes, multicam, etc) and then just editing timeline-to-timeline. Th
Re: Dual-System Sound Question
by Andrew Kimery 2 years ago
Ryan Patch "Pray tell, what is this "very powerful" audio sync feature. Will it sync 1000s of clips in 10 seconds, as I can do in Resolve It's my understanding that Adobe doesn't have this feature. "
Working with Directors/ The Edit Room Challenge
by Byrd Mcdonald 2 years ago
I manage a lot of different edits at any given time. Most of the projects I'm overseeing I've also produced and or directed. I'm having a challenge with one editor in particular who somehow never seem
Re: Working with Directors/ The Edit Room Challenge
by Andrew Kimery 2 years ago
Byrd Mcdonald "He's always happy to export out the timeline and send me a file to review and make notes on, but some much of the nuance of editing happens in real time in my opinion. " If he's happy
4K Playback smooth in Quicktime Player, stutters in Premiere Pro
by Weston Jones 2 years ago
Hi, I'm working with 4K, 60FPS MOV files from the Panasonic GH5. When I play these files in QuickTime Player 10.4, the playback is smooth, and I can jog around the video file with ease. No issues. But
Re: 4K Playback smooth in Quicktime Player, stutters in Premiere Pro
by Andrew Kimery 2 years ago
What codec does the GH5 record to and which Mac are you using If you are using H.264 on an iMac or Mac laptop then QT 10 (and FCP X) use the built in H.264 encoder decoder chip that's part of the inte
What's the workflow for syncing jam synced cameras?
by Ollie Brent 2 years ago
Ok so I'm working on some reality doc style projects with 2-3 jam synced cameras and no external audio. I know this is super easy to do in Avid or FCP7, but how do I take these clips and create a non
Re: What's the workflow for syncing jam synced cameras?
by Andrew Kimery 2 years ago
John Stiles "It seems like premiere can only handle syncing 2 clips at a time There has to be a way to do this without resorting to waveform syncing (which I'm trying to move away from since Plural E
New Mac for feature doc on Premiere?
by Emmanuelle Antolin 2 years ago
Hi All, I m an independent filmmaker about to start editing my first feature documentary. A lot of the material is 4K though delivery will be 1080. For a short project I just cut, I ve been loving edi
Re: New Mac for feature doc on Premiere?
by Andrew Kimery 2 years ago
What year is the MBP you are using It sounds like a 2011 model (the 670m is an Nvidia card, did you mean 6770m ). You can try upgrading the RAM to 16, replacing the factory HDD with an SSD and setting
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Premiere Pro and SDD. Not real improvement?
by Javi Sobremazas 2 years ago
Hi there forum, First of all, hello, this is my first message here. My name is Javi and I'm a freelance filmmaker from Spain. Well, I'm going to start with a small problem I have. A year ago I updated
Re: Premiere Pro and SDD. Not real improvement?
by Andrew Kimery 2 years ago
What Brent said, plus the other things you mention (loading projects, rendering, exporting, etc.,) are more dependent on your CPU, RAM, and GPU than on your storage.
FCPX Documentary on Kickstarter!
by Noah Kadner 2 years ago
For those want to see the FCPX debate taken to a whole other level please check out Off the Tracks on Kickstarter: http: kck.st 2uiKYZH Kickstarter Pitch Video https: www.youtube.com watch v=F9dtsd2ZV
Re: FCPX Documentary on Kickstarter!
by Michael Gissing 2 years ago
Andrew Kimery "Sure. Do you mind if I use Media Composer First " If you shoot it on an iPhone and cut with MC Free sure, why not. Lets workshop it over a bucket of koolaid.
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Autodesk subscription model
by Oliver Peters 2 years ago
We debate subscriptions often here. This is an interesting article as it pertains to subscription at Autodesk. The last part about pirates is enlightening. http: www.studiodaily.com 2017 05 autodesk-r
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Re: Autodesk subscription model
by andy patterson 2 years ago
Andrew Kimery "You also seem to be relying on a common fallacy that dropping prices would inherently lead to an inversely proportional increase in customers and revenue (ex. if Adobe cuts the price b
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The iMac "Pro" rumor looks interesting
by Craig Seeman 2 years ago
https: www.macrumors.com 2017 04 06 imac-xeon-e3-64gb-ram-amd-late-october New iMac Late October. Xeon E3 processor. And Apple's entry back into monitors may be 8K. A bigger (taller) Mac Mini.
Re: The iMac "Pro" rumor looks interesting - CASE IN POINT
by Chris Harlan 2 years ago
Robin S. Kurz " Oliver Peters "I'm sure you would dispute any example I presented" Bit of a cop-out, don't you think If they are legitimate points, how could I " You generally find a way.
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Blade
by Shane Ross 2 years ago
If Apple is looking only to the future, and wanting to dump the old, ancient ways of the past...including the terminology used, like "bin," why is the "blade" tool still called BLADE And why does it l
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Re: Blade
by Tim Wilson 2 years ago
I've come up with a title graphic for the movie, Blade X: Clash of Metaphors. This will also do for my submission for what the icon for the tool should be. Nothing more iconic than friggin Wesley Snip
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Prem vs FCPX - Panels
by Oliver Peters 2 years ago
Since this is a debate forum and it's a Friday, what are your thoughts about Adobe's Premiere Pro panels architecture This seems to be a key enabler for many third party developers building add-ins to
Re: Prem vs FCPX - Panels
by Chris Harlan 2 years ago
Thanks, man!
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Why does render take so much longer than encode?
by Steve Adams 2 years ago
I'm using PP2017 to to take a 30fps 1920x1080 clip down to 33% speed with Optical Flow, and I notice that if I render the clip, by hitting Return, it proceeds at 3-4 seconds per frame, but if I export
Re: Why does render take so much longer than encode?
by Andrew Kimery 2 years ago
Steve Adams "I see all kinds of export settings in the Export Media screen but I don't see much about render settings, other than optimize for performance or memory, so I don't know how to compare th
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"Adobexit", switching from PPro to FCPX
by Steve Connor 2 years ago
Just noticed this article reposted on the FCPX Editors group on Facebook about switching to FCPX http: www.vivalazoom.co.uk switch-premiere-final-cut
Re: "Adobexit", switching from PPro to FCPX
by Robin S. Kurz 2 years ago
Shawn Miller "Doesn't this support Andrew's point though A PC user could say that Adobe is wasting time and resources supporting Metal instead of fixing "important" cross platform bugs." You beat me
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Here we go. GPU in the cloud. By Subscription.
by Bill Davis 3 years ago
http: www.macworld.co.uk how-to mac-software how-use-geforce-now-on-mac-geforce-now-for-pc-mac-explained-3652516 Still thinking you're going to need that massive CPU GPU combo hard-soldered in your ma
Re: Here we go. GPU in the cloud. By Subscription.
by Shawn Miller 3 years ago
Andrew Kimery "If we reach a point in the US where data caps don't exist and 1gig up down is common place (or even 10gig up down is affordable) then these problems obviously are reduced." Yup, all we
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FCP X Explained…
by Robin S. Kurz 3 years ago
Quite possibly the best, comprehensive and astute comparison and highlighting of old and new that I have seen to date. (both live and now "on tape") Bravo Jes s. Well done! https: www.youtube.com watc
Re: FCP X Explained…
by Michael Hancock 3 years ago
To quote your earlier post: Robin S. Kurz " I for one have maybe used the position tool TWICE and one of those times was for mere demonstration purposes. So much for essential or "need to know"." I re
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CC price increase
by Dennis Geraghty 3 years ago
Just got notified that our 2-year "promo rate" is over, so our CC license is going from $475 year to $839 year. Seems like we now get to feel about Adobe the way we feel about cable companies and drug
Re: CC price increase
by Andrew Kimery 3 years ago
Dennis Geraghty "They set the hook and then pull hard." You signed up for a limited time discount only offered to CS 5 or CS 6 customers and now that the discount rate has expired you are getting bil
Creative COW Forums
by Creative COW 3 years ago
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I made a cat video with FCP X...
by Charlie Austin 3 years ago
A Cat! ------------------------------------------------------------- My FCPX Babbling blog "It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools. " I still need to play Track Tetris sometimes. An old game that
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Re: I made a cat video with FCP X...
by Darren Roark 3 years ago
David Mathis "What happens when you let fluffy in a Xerox machine You have a copy cat!" Xerox machines, those are the Catillacs of photocopy machines!
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wwdc
by Tom Sefton 3 years ago
Ummmm..... It's the first time I've really taken note, but can someone with more experience say whether all major announcements come in the first keynote address, because some updates to messaging, ph
Re: wwdc
by Darren Roark 3 years ago
Andrew Kimery "Yeah, my most irrational fear is probably of buying electronics and then having an better version come out right after my return window ends. lol" I think we share the same techupgrade
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Stirring the pot...
by Bill Davis 3 years ago
It's way too quiet here. So here's a link to my latest XinTwo blog post... https: www.xintwo.com now-you-can-edit-faster-and-produce-better-work Surely it's provocative enough to encourage others to r
Re: Stirring the pot...
by Charlie Austin 3 years ago
Walter Soyka "Premiere does have an easy way to snap a workspace layout back to its saved state. " Thanks Walter, that's the first time I've ever been wrong! lol ;-) ---------------------------------
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Beating a dead horse
by Herb Sevush 3 years ago
Beating a dead horse should be the name of this forum. For those who keep insisting that the Apple rollout of FCPX (as opposed to the product itself) was brilliant, Andrew Kimery, in a different threa
Re: Beating a dead horse
by Charlie Austin 3 years ago
Andrew Kimery "and since when does caring not caring prevent us from debating about something in here. ;)" touch :-) ------------------------------------------------------------- My FCPX Babbling blo
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Luddites Rejoice!!!
by Charlie Austin 3 years ago
Found on the internets... ------------------------------------------------------------- My FCPX Babbling blog "It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools. " I still need to play Track Tetris sometime
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Re: Luddites Rejoice!!!
by Bob Zelin 3 years ago
And speaking of "bring out your dead" (I love Monty Python, and that type of humor) - A big hug out to Oliver Peters, that posted the link for updating your Mac 2009 4,1 into a 5,1 with a firmware upd
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How does the edited video be delivered to user during editing?
by Ivan Gao 3 years ago
I'm curious about the principle of video editing. When the video is edited on a certain NLE software, how does the computer display the edited result to the user on the preview screen Does it create a
Re: How does the edited video be delivered to user during editing?
by Andrew Kimery 3 years ago
Ivan Gao "Does it create a temporal video file on the disk to store the edited result or just store the edited video stream in the memory " I don't believe it does either by default. When you playbac
Eye in the Sky
by Andrew Kimery 3 years ago
See it. Some of the drama is laid on a bit thick at times but see it. Mirren, Rickman, Paul (all the cast) nail it so you should go see it. I don't know why it's flying so far under the radar but you
Re: Eye in the Sky
by Andrew Kimery 3 years ago
Tim Wilson "I really think that Eye in the Sky struck a tone for a political thriller I'd like to see much more often." Agreed. Hopefully it picks up some word of mouth steam and does well on VOD str
Is Apple redefining Safe Title?
by Anthony Dalesandro 3 years ago
Watching the video on ResearchKit at Apple's latest Keynote (http: youtu.be lYC6riNxmis), I noticed the lower thirds were pretty close to the corners of my TV screen (I was watching it on my Apple TV
Re: Is Apple redefining Safe Title?
by Andrew Kimery 3 years ago
Anthony Dalesandro "I wonder if they're acknowledging this video will be web based only and putting the titles wherever they please " I'd say so. I've done a lot of work for the web and most of the t
Is it worth it to buy outright?
by Bobby Hall 3 years ago
I'm considering purchasing Avid Media Composer but I don't like the idea of paying a monthly fee for it, so I was thinking about buying it outright. Is it worth it to do that At some point the softwar
Re: Is it worth it to buy outright?
by Andrew Kimery 3 years ago
Bobby Hall " Thanks for the replies everyone. I would also like to just own the program and keep it forever without having to constantly pay for updates, but I guess that's not really possible!" AFAI
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